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Dialektische Interaktive Ansatz in der Nutzung in der Altertümlichen Zeit DIA Raum - "Das Buch des Jows - Die Heilige Bibel" - der Teil Zwei: The helpful Comments by the Creator of Knowledge

The White Angel


The displeased Lord {FOOTNOTE-1} answered Job who was on the way to be the winner this dialectic debate against three friends of his because he managed to make himself righteous in his own eyes. By putting emphasise on his illness and charity he did to others, Job succeeded to close mouth of his friends, an unforgivable weakness during the clash of ideas -DIA- the suitable thoughts in this ancient time DIA space. Compare this synthesis DIA the renewed thesis with the same fierce struggle of ideas DIA the uttered thoughts, that much later characterised the antique time DIA space – the age of Socrates and Plato. No showing “mercy” during the initiated dialectic interactive process using dialectic interactive approach (thesis, antithesis, synthesis DIA … the renewed thesis ... the renewed antithesis, .... until it has been reached a (temporal) conclusion) if the stake is such a noble goal as it is the preventing DIA avoiding of conflict (fight) of people {FOOTNOTE-2} , even IF IT DEALS WITH A SICK MAN, but an ACTIVE participant of the started debate. In other words, any potential participant having any kind of weakness, understood in terms of conceiving and comprehending of the dialectical space (spirit, mind, matter), should not participate in such a debate. Read also the Lord’s incitement (instigation), but not in the literal terms (Job-40:11-14):

  • Unleash the fury of your wrath, look at every proud (wo)man and bring her/him low, look at every proud (wo)man and humble her/him, crush the wicked where they stand. Bury them all in the dust together; shroud their faces in the grave. Then I myself will admit you that your own right hand can save you.

The Human Being


In such an undesirable scenario in time DIA situation in space, Elihu “became very displeased DIA irritated ('angry' like the storm DIA Lord – 35:1-16)" with Job for justifying himself rather than God (Job-27:1-6). Notice, Elihu was also displeased with the three friends of Job as well, because they hadn't found a way to refute Job and yet had condemned him. Didactic message (edict): Someone who is on the way to be(come) a loser in a dialectic interactive séance (discourse) had neither right at all to condemn nor to judge others (Luke-6:37). In religious terms, this right is reserved for the God, whereas in terms of the introduced dialectic interactive approach, it belongs to the winner of the initiated dialectic interactive process. Instructive are also the following words uttered by 5.Moses-1:17 as well "Hear the disputes between your brothers (and sisters), and judge fairly, whether the case is between brother Israelites or between one of them and an alien. Do not show PARTIALITY in judging; hear both small and great alike. DO NOT BE AFRAID of any (wo)man, for final judgment belongs to God". Read also Isaiah-51:7-8 and Isaiah-51:12-16. Keep in mind, during this considered clash of ideas DIA expressed thoughts, is also present audience (listening to in background of this public discourse). In either case, reconsider these words through the prism of the magnificent Lord’s monologue. In (symbolic) dialectic terms, the winner of the initiated dialectical interactive process using dialectic interactive approach is in fact a symbolic (dialectic) presentation of a small deity because (s)he managed to connect her/himself with the source of all knowledge, wisdom … truth DIA trust and love of His, that is, with God, respectively as it Elihu expressed:

  • "But it is the spirit in a (wo)man, the breath of Almighty, that gives her/him understanding" (Job-32-8). "I too will have my say; I too will tell what I know, for I am full of words, and the spirit within me compels me; inside I am like bottled-up wine, like new wineskins ready to burst. I must speak and find relief; I must open my lips and reply {FOOTNOTE-3} . I will show partiality to no-one, nor will I flatter any (wo)man, for if I were skilled in flattery, my Maker would soon take me away" (Job-32:17-22 /Elihu/).
  • Compare this dialectic interactive content to the words of Jeremiah-20:9: But if I say, "I will not mention Him or speak any more in His name, His word (Inmost Being) is in my heart (Inner Being) like a fire, a fire shut up in my bones". I am weary of holding it in; indeed, I cannot anymore".
Read also Christ's words (John-9:21) and compare them to this dialectic interactive content under consideration. CLICK here to read, "The Concept of the Living God".

The White Angel


Pay also your attention to Elihu’s shown respect to the older fellows [it has been meant "older", understood in terms of time DIA space in difference to the comprehension of this dialectic content in terms of the infinity (of times) DIA eternity (of spaces) within the worlds of dialectics of God] before he has started with speaking. “But when he saw that these three men had nothing more to say, his displeasure (the Lord out of the storm) was aroused …“ (Job-32:4-9). Note too that Elihu, before he has started with speaking, regarded all the basic rules and principles of the dialectic interactive approach. He didn’t interrupt the other participants during the initiated dialectic interactive process regarding the dialectic interactive content under consideration. On the contrary, he listened attentively and genuinely to their reasoning by paying his full attention, waiting patiently to tell what he has to say.

The Human Being


Elihu’s emotional reaction ["displeased"- Job-32:10-12, that is, un-complied with their "having nothing more to say"] confirms that the dialectic interactive content and its course of time in space (initiated dialectic interactive process) genuinely touched him (in the "heart"), inflaming the accumulated obscurity within the imaginative MEDIUM in time DIA space created by its participants (“minds DIA emotive emotional dia physical presences”). But since none of them managed to confute Job's answering DIA his arguments {FOOTNOTE-3} , Elihu takes initiative over the already waned dialectic interactive process confirming (in the name and way of Lord) their “defeat” because they were dismayed [the fear of the Lord (AND NOT OF JOB) is the (beginning of) wisdom in this case] and having nothing more to say, words failed them (Job-32:15-16). In other words, they didn't show regard to the major postulate of the Wisdom of God, while they were dialectically synthesising this dialectic interactive content, discerned in terms of Good. In dialectical terms, the initiated dialectic interactive process has approached to its end (waning). In other words, it came the time DIA space for the making a synthesis DIA conclusion, understood in terms of finishing the initiated dialectic interactive process regarding the dialectic interactive content under consideration because Job until that moment successfully defended his (hypo)thesis (Job-29:11-13 + 31:13-35).

To be avoided this undesirable scenario in time DIA situation in space, Elihu continues DIA instigation the waning dialectic interactive process by the renewed antithesis, by using his own arguments instead of theirs, previously warning them: “Do not say, ‘We have found wisdom; let God refute him, not (wo)man” {FOOTNOTE-4} , (read also Eliphaz's argumentation – Job-15:7-10) because wisdom “cannot be found in the land of living (Job-28:21) nor in the deep sea … Only God understands the way to it {FOOTNOTE-5} . Seen from the dialectic methodological perspective, this approach is [in (wo)men’s terms] a possible and feasible (re)enlightment of the path to the acquiring wisdom that only God understands.

The White Angel


Keep in your mind that author of this creative work, writing about Dialectics, has officially started the creative way of his, creating his first creative work: “Netmode - the Strategy for the 21st Century - Dialectic Interactive Approach” (Jovanovic, 1999). Namely, setting up DIA considering the “Methodological Aspects of the Study – A Dialectic View” (chapter one) and writing “About Dialectic”, the first sentences of his were as it follows:

  • “The original meaning and interpretation of Dialectic or Wisdom of God was partly preserved creators of knowledge, who creatively acted and created in the antique Greece. After the antique age this ancient knowledge and learning "suddenly" disappeared. In other words, this approach ceased to be used as the main (leading) method in the science and philosophy. A coincidence? I'm not sure. First in the 18-19th. century some aspects of this Wisdom reappeared in philosophy, particularly in the works of … …”.
Yes, these were the first sentences, noted down for five years ago. Keep in your mind that this way of expression DIA impressions of this creator of knowledge was a METHODOLOGICAL (dialectical) interpretation and presentation of the wisdom of God (Dialectics uttered using dialectic interactive approach) and not the wisdom of God itself. In my opinion, seen from a viewpoint of the mental – emotive emotional intelligence, the success of the creative efforts of anyone, who has ambition to re-enlighten the way to the wisdom that only God understands, depends on the cleanness of the "heart" (soul) DIA "brain" (mind), that is, cleanness of the Inner Being of hers / his DIA the cleanness of the Inmost Light-Being ("I DIA Ego") in particular. No doubt at me that this re-enlightenment DIA (re)illumination of this holy path that leads through thy Kingdom of God ["is within you (Luke - 17:20-21)”] can only be achieved by the "little" help of the (Living) God DIA (Holy) Spirit of God ["I the Lord search the heart and examine the mind" (Jeremiah-17:10)], respectively by helpers of His, as it the afore interpreted and presented dialectical interactive content celebrated in the Book of Job has demonstrated. Or by expressing this dialectical content in another way, the accumulated GOOD within a person (from generation to generation) or within a folk, if you prefer this way of expression, enables potentially far greater creative abilities. In other words, this is an additional reason and motivation (creative one), why the good should be cultivated within a family, a folk, ... apart from others, including the religious ones. READ, "Dialectic Triad of the Bringing Up, Edification and Education of New Generations".

The Human Being


Particularly this issue is important considering this dialectical INTERACTIVE content

  • [only "good with good" can successfully communicate , cross over and prevail the various barriers of the (different) time (future, presence, PAST) DIA space as well]
from a dialectically long-run perspective, or the corresponding prospects, if you so will. The following thoughts have also been recorded and uttered by this creator of knowledge for five years ago, too (1999). Let me to refresh the memory on this time DIA space:
  • “The potential of mentally-emotive emotional intelligence is enormous, seen from a viewpoint of the process of creation and implementation of knowledge. The mentally - emotive emotional intelligence theoretically allows human(e) beings to access very old (ancient) knowledge preserved and transferred from generation to generation. In other words, it means that an (great) individual has potential to intuit, sense, imaginate, emote and read all books, which her/his ancestors read and experienced with deep emotions, that is, impressed and imprinted into the time DIA space, as well as to go into frames of reference of other creators of knowledge who acted in the past. This knowledge was stored as impressions and imprints of that concrete time DIA space in an imaginative "server". The interpreted and presented knowledge of the dialectics noted down in this creative work was written and "translated" by this creator of knowledge using this method(ics) and the closely related methodical procedures. Namely, the author of this project study decided to make an order in his Inner Being through the working with himself (The Inner Being) as well as within himself (The Inmost Being). After I released/freed myself of acquired and inherited obscurity of the inner being and the related shackles the new horizons suddenly were opened for me: The so-called “fourth-dimension”. In short, there were found very interesting books about dialectics, who my ancestors had read. I had feeling that I touched the fundament of mine/yours/ours that was interpreted and presented in this project study. From this reason, it should stop with the extinction of human(e) beings because each human(e) individual possess a rich potential, if not for us then for future generations. In my opinion, the human(e) beings in the future, through interaction within themselves and with other individuals as well as by the means of the related dissociation and relaxing DIA emancipation themselves from the shackles of the (imposed) crowd DIA group way of deliberation and thinking, will be able to open fifth (sixth, etc.) dialect ("dimension"), too. In other words, to access the Higher knowledge directly! My experience shows that all is in this kind of interaction DIA mutual intentionality [the ability to (re)create and change my-thy-our (living) environment], thinking and dialectical synthesising of (in) time and space (spirit, mind, matter) DIA relaxing through the emancipation and dissociation of her-/himself from time to time in the way previously elaborated. Therefore my advice is: Release thy (subdued) SPIRIT and MIND (from each other), READ, "About the Conflict inside of the Simple(st) Mind", freely and fearless!
Source: "Netmode – the Strategy for 21st Century – Dialectic Interactive Approach, Jovanović, 1999".
Fundaments of the Mentally-Emotive Emotional Intelligence.

READ more related to this theme, "Fundaments of the Mental-Emotional Intelligence".

The White Angel


After this long digression, understood in terms of corresponding time DIA space, it can be re-continued the interpretation of "The Book of Job". Following the principles of the dialectic interactive approach Elihu, in order to restart DIA revive the already waning dialectic interactive process , is about to open his mouth and to release the words on the top of his tongue.

  • …. “My words come from an upright heart; my lips sincerely speak what I know. The Spirit of God has made me; the breath of the Almighty gives me life. Answer me then, if you can, prepare yourself and confront me. I am just like you before God; I too have been taken from clay. No fear of me (but God, of course) should alarm you, nor should my hand be heavy upon you. But you have said in my hearing, I heard the very words - I am pure and without sin; I am clean and free from guilt. Yet God has found fault with me; He considers me His enemy. He fastens my feet in shackles; He keeps close watch on my entire path. (Job-33:3-11).”

All previously presented dialectic interactive content demonstrates that Elihu is familiar not only with principles of the dialectic interactive approach but also with the basic postulates of dialectics as well, as well as with the notion wisdom in the way as its concept was held by the older generation {FOOTNOTE-6} , for example, by the three friends of Job. According to Zophar, [when God could speak about wisdom, disclosing the secrets of wisdom] the true wisdom has two sides (thesis DIA antithesis – Job-11:4-6, read also Job-33:14-22). After this statement of his, Zophar continues and rounds it up by the following synthesis DIA the renewed thesis: “Know this; God has even forgotten some of your sin (Job-11:4-6). Pay thy attention, how Zophar interprets and presents “thoughts of Spirit”, which passed and filtered through the Inner Being DIA Inmost One of his, in the extent of its cleanness (versus obscurity, if you so will). In short, seen from a dialectical perspective, the contained (hidden) ambiguity (with)in Zophar’s statement is in fact the source of the dialectical tensions in time DIA space (fuel of the dialectic interactive content). Or put it in another way, the idea that “the true wisdom has two sides” is actually the locomotion of the initiated dialectic interactive process using dialectic interactive approach. By the way said, perceive too, how Elihu bravely breaks up the adopted, deeply implanted and generally accepted customs and traditions of that time and space. And all this happened in the ancient time DIA space, a hot topic still actual in present-days:

  • "I thought; Age should speak; advanced years should teach wisdom. But it is the spirit in a (wo)man, the breath of the Almighty that gives her/him understanding. It is not only the old who are wise, not only the aged who understand what is right. Therefore I say: Listen attentively to me; I too will tell you what I know. I waited patiently while you spoke, I listened to your reasoning; while you were searching for words, I gave you my full attention. But not one of you has answered his arguments. Do not say, ...." (Job-32:6-22, /Elihu/).

Four Primary Proto Dialects (Elements)


In addition to this, Elihu also conceived and understood the deeper meaning of the statement uttered by Job: “Doubtless you are the people and wisdom will die with you“ (Job-12:2!), followed by Job's multi-ambiguous statements (dialectic interactive content): “But I have a mind as well as you; I am not inferior to you" [THOUGH JOB IS ILL]. "Who does not know all these things (Job:12:3)”? Recall that ambiguity is the major source of contradictions/dialectic tensions. Furthermore, Elihu adopted DIA emulation Job’s dilemma DIA his awareness: “Where then does wisdom come from? Where does understanding dwell“ …. (Job-28:20)”? By the way said, pay thy attention to the way of use of the four (ancient) elements (dialects), fire, water, air, earth, in the Book of Job, both on their static features and dynamic DIA dialectic ones, in particular to those uttered by the Lord and Elihu. Let me finish this dialectic interactive content related to the term wisdom by the Lord’s words DIA His monologue; uttered some time DIA space later, after in-seeing how these four (ancient) elements (dialects) function in the living reality, that is, why He was so satisfied after "seeing all that He had made, and it was VERY GOOD. And there was evening, and there was morning - the sixth God's day". (1.Moses-1-31): “He look (back) at (acquired) wisdom and appraised it; he confirmed it and tested it. And he said to (wo)man, “The fear of the Lord – that is wisdom, and to shun evil is understanding“ (Job-28:27-28).

Paraphrase of the Psalm of David-8:3-6 by this creator of knowledge:
“When I (re)consider deeper Your heavens, the creative illumination of Your wisdom; the earthens that You have fashioned and set in the right places, using Your awareness, conceiving, comprehension, understanding, knowledge and dialectic synthesising DIA deeper insight of these unutterably complex dialectic interactive contents; the expanses of the sky, the stars, the sun and the moon set in motion within all that DIA the initiation of corresponding dialectic interactive processes; and in particular the earth, a jewel of Yours within Your creation, its flora and fauna; an enlightening example of reviving of the previously inanimate creative content consisting, methodologically uttered, of air, fire, earth and water; what is then a human(e) being that You are mindful of her/him, the son of a human(e) being that you care for him". .......

READ other verses of this poem: "The Eternal Poem - Part One"

The White Angel


Armed to the teeth with the adopted tools of dialectics held by the older generation of that time DIA space, Elihu begins his speech (note, in monologue, too), without handing in control over this (re)initiated dialectic interactive process (monologue), by using mentioning of God’s name in the purpose of hiding himself behind God’s acts; ["Bear with me a little longer and I will show you that there is more to be said on God's behalf. I get knowledge from afar; I will ascribe justice to my Maker, be assured that my words are not false; ONE PERFECT IN KNOWLEDGE is with you (Job-36:1-4)]. In fact he applied the similar (contradictory) tactic for attack that Job implemented defending himself against the three friends of his. Compare these words of Elihu to the following ones: "Do you know how the clouds hang poised, those wonders of Him WHO IS PERFECT IN KNOWLEDGE" (Job-37:14-16". But during the Elihu's speech there is neither interaction nor use of the dialectic interactive approach in the full sense of meaning, except his ATTEMPTS TO RE-INITIALISE (provoke, ignite, incite, and induce) it:

  • "I gave you my full attention. But not one of you has answered his arguments. Do not say, “We have found wisdom; let God refute her/him, not (wo)man. But Job has not marshaled his words against me, and I will not answer him with your arguments. They are dismayed and have no more to say; words have failed them. Must I wait now that they are silent, now that they stand there with no reply? I too will have my say; I too will tell what I know" .... (Job-32:12-17).
Notice, there is no response against the renewed antithesis of his (silence DIA monologue) because they listen to this monologue like hypnotised. Who in fact Elihu was, managing DIA allowing himself to speak in monologue?

The Human Being


And then suddenly, without any explanation by the narrator of "The Book of Job", there is the following scene, that is, scenario in time DIA situation in space: The Lord out of the storm (displeased) continues, taking over this monologue (instead) of Elihu, whose name, by the way said, was not anymore mentioned to the end of this Book. Without mentioning a name, [“Who is this that darkens my counsel with words without knowledge! Brace yourself like a man; I will question thou and thou shall answer me (Job-38:1-3)] the "displeased" Lord begins His monologue [DIA dialogue - at the end of "The Book of Job" - a successful re-initialisation of the already waned dialectical interactive process]. In fact, the name of this (unknown) person (" who brace himself like a man") was found out at the end of this dialectic interactive debate:

  • “You asked, "Who is this that obscures my counsel without knowledge?" [Read again Job-38:2.] Surely I spoke of things I did not understand, things too wonderful for me to know. You said, "Listen now, and I will speak; I will question you, and you shall answer Me." My ears had heard of You but now my eyes have seen You; therefore I despise myself, and repent in dust and ashes” (Job-42:3-6).

The rest of this (re)started divine monologue [“The fear of the Lord – that is (the beginning of) wisdom and to shun evil (DIA knowledge of the Holy One) is understanding”] sounds like a divine challenge to the participants of the dialectic interactive process, respectively checking out whether they are truly (in the right way) aware of this major postulate of the dialectics (wisdom of God), or they were familiar with it only in literal terms:

  • “Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation? Tell me, if you understand. Who marked off its dimension? Surely you know! Who stretched a measuring line across it? On what were its footings set, or who laid its cornerstone – while the morning stars sang together and all the angels shouted for joy? …” (Job-38:1-7, /The Lord speaks– displeased/out of the storm /).

The White Angel


Pay your attention to the Lord’s refine referring to the time DIA space when “all the angels shouted for joy” and when "the early stars” (“the morning stars”) sang the same song alluding on the time DIA space before Lucifer and his followers rebelled against God [and then Satan too, some kind of accuser (Satan means in fact accuser) of human(e) beings (Job-1 & Job-2)]. This Satan's teltalling was ended by his rebellion against God, getting truly irritated and wrathful on the behaviour of human beings (as it was Job’s one, for example), transforming himself into an enemy of (wo)humankind, as it was later recorded in the (other) Holy Books. Perceive, how the Lord skillfully gets rid of Satan, sending him away to tempt Job by means of his methods (making him busy), in order to stay alone with the seven Archangels, the true "EYES" of His (Zechariah-4:10)]. This active participation of Lord during this earthly debate, might be considered, as a kind of the watching (convincing) with the own eyes the reports got from other sources. I hope it was not difficult to unriddle through which mouth Satan spoke previously the accumulated inflaming obscurity (Job-1:11). Using the old pattern of thought (cliché) that links woman (Eva) with the fall of man (Adam), being valid to the present days, the narrator of "The of Book of Job" utters it by the scene (of temptation), where Job's wife said to him, "Are you still holding on your integrity? Curse God and die"! (Job-2:9 / Job's wife /). Notice, this earthly scene of temptation again reminds on the scene played somewhere within the world of dialectics of His, beyond the hidden scenery, between the Lord and Satan, when Satan said to the Lord, "But stretch out Your hand and strike his flesh and bones, and he will surely curse You to Your face (Job-2:5 /Satan/). In all this Job did not sin in what he said (Job-2:10 /Narrator/). After this successful overcoming the temptation DIA testing by his wife, she left him in peace and ceased to play the active role in this creative work.

The Human Being


This creator of knowledge, acting and creating in this time DIA space, tried to equal (counterbalance) the role of woman and man in all creative works of his, even when he quoted passages from the Holy Books and Scriptures, using the expressions "(s)he, (wo)man, her/his ....". This was not only done by him in order to be in the modern trend related to the emancipation of woman nor to show (present) himself in light of a gentleman by paying this compliment {FOOTNOTE-7} but rather to create a human(e) environment DIA conditions for a genuine, true and healthy relationship between woman and man, what taken together makes a foundation stone for the establishment a healthy family (anticipated and imagined by the Everlasting God, 1.Moses-1:27-28), about which this creator of knowledge wrote so much. In broader and deeper sense, in this way there were set up the foundation stones for the slowly coming age DIA ruling of human(e) beings (humanity) DIA humanocracy, that slowly emerges from the deeps of the very remote time (future, presence, past) DIA space (spirit, mind, matter). On the other hand, seen from a dialectical methodological perspective, what it was achieved DIA wanted to say by such childishly low-brow statements:

  • "O, Watcher of men" (thesis) - who is Watcher of women? (antithesis): Men according to them, not God (synthesis DIA a renewed thesis);
  • "The man He imprisoned cannot be released" (thesis) - The woman He imprisoned can be released (antithesis);
  • "For no godless man would dare come before Him" (thesis) - The godless women would dare to come before Him! (antithesis);
  • "What he trusts in is fragile" (thesis) - What she trusts in is not fragile (antithesis);
  • What should be said for such a statement within the Ten Commandments: ".... punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation" (thesis) while not punishing the children for the sin of the mothers (antithesis) and so on.

The White Angel


It is apparent that such statements lead to confusion, particularly in the earthly (juridical) terms. It is a wonder, that women did not try to utilise these opportunities for justifying themselves for their bad conscience by quoting the Holy Books and Scriptures, respectively organising themselves into a new movement of women which is, by the way said, very popular in this modern (paganic) time DIA space. Probably, the reason should be sought DIA found in the significantly decreased influence and role of religion DIA houses of pray in this modern paganic age. By all means, on the Heavens DIA Earthens are the Original Books written and sealed by the God, whereas these earthly ones are in fact multiple translations DIA copies from the original source: "Translated/rendered" by the (Great) Prophets through the degree of cleanness of their Inner Beings DIA Inmost One in those time DIA space, partly "improved" DIA rendition (of time DIA space) into another language by the "creative" efforts of the numerous earthly scribes, and "prophets" as well (read, Jeremiah-8:8). In other words, this form of uttering of superiority or chauvinism, if you so will, doesn't have any sense and have brought more damage and harm than benefit. Anyway, religion is the heart (core) of any culture, and from this reason it is not good to implant into the core anything rotten, spoiled or corrupt, that is, anything that can corrupt (spoil) it. READ, "Culture DIA Religion". Keep in your mind, Holy Books and Scriptures were not written to last (endure) a few thousands ... millions ... years but rather to the very end of this time DIA space. Even then, they DIA their major postulates will be re-vivified (made alive again), as well as their believers, who steadfastly believed into their truly content, understood in terms of (distinguishing) Good (from evil). Or uttered it in dialectical way, the dialectical interactive content uttered DIA noted down in the Holy Books and Scriptures should be always dialectically synthesised in terms of good, that is, what God would have said related to the dialectical interactive content under consideration, and not in terms of evil, that is, what devil, earthly gods, natiocrats, … would have said related to the dialectic interactive content under consideration. From this reason, this spiritual voice has to be heard and uttered, in one or another way, by the clerical staff.

The Human Being


Although some parts of the Lord’s argumentation seem obsolete, seen from the modern perspective, and from the scientific standpoint in particular: “Have you journeyed to the springs of the sea or walked in the recess of the deep” (Job-38:16), and so on, do not underestimate the METHODOLOGICAL VALUE of this ancient creative framework. Or more simply said, you can change the unknown in that time DIA suitable space with the unknown of this modern age, which had no any sense to be questioned by the degree of development of language DIA corresponding knowledge and awareness of that space in time DIA time in space. For example, this sentence could be reformulated in the following way: “Have you journeyed to the springs of the universe or worked in the recess of its deep”. If the notion “universe” is not artistically interpreted enough to conjure up this dialectic interactive content, replace it with the notion of the “worlds of dialectics of God”, or with “their” multidimensional space, if you so will! Keep always in your mind, it is God who “reveals the deep things of darkness and deep shadows into the light” (Job - 12:22), otherwise if thou by thy not enough cleanness and bandwidth of thy inner DIA inmost being barely attempt to equalise thyself with God, sooner or later, thy knowledge will become obsolete, too. In either case, seen from the standpoint of the developed dialectic interactive approach, a victor of the initiated creative debate in (of) time DIA space has not necessary to be the all-knowing but for sure to be ENOUGH WISE and more knowledgeable than the other participants of it, that is, to "shut up" their mouth with her, his demonstrated power of knowledge and the wisdom particularly, understood each time DIA suitable space in terms of the TEMPORAL conclusion related to the dialectic content under consideration. Recall, Job was very close to achieve it! As an antique example of the victor of creative debates (dialogues), read the statements DIA argumentation of Socrates versus his opponents, noted down by Plato. READ ALSO, "Creative Travellings in Time DIA Space: 'Plato-Timaeus' - Part One".

The Background Simulative Assumptions of the Dialectic Interactive Approach


It is very important to be emphasised that on the Lord’s “obsolete” argumentation would not in the same way responded each philosopher, artist, culturolog (culturer) and scientist: The dialects and basic simulative methodological assumptions of the dialectical interactive framework DIA approach in the pre-ancient time DIA space, that is, the use of philosophy, art, culture and science as a creatively intertwined (coiled) whole. For example, on the Lord’s argumentation: “Have you comprehended the vast expanses of the earth? Tell me, if you know all this” (Job-38:18), would not have been answered in the same way by a scientist, culturer, philosopher and artist. Generally speaking, for sure, the weakest link of this four-triangled whole is science DIA scientists, and particularly the so-called quasi-scientists, because the root of the modern science is the most shallow, that is, it is the youngest and the shortest of these four (modern) basic ways that lead to the discovery of unknown in time DIA space. Particularly, it is so if the statement was uttered by scientists without a deeper insight DIA knowledge of time DIA space, that is a major characteristic of the so-called quasi- (pseudo-) scientists (-philosophers, -artists, -culturologs, too). In other words, a philosopher would have seen a myriad of philosophic paths, directions, schools of thought (of knowledge and wisdom) within “the vast expanses of the earth(ens)”, not to be mentioned the corresponding views of an artist regarding this dialectic interactive content under consideration.

The Background Simulative Assumptions of the Dialectic Interactive Approach


The Ultimate DIA Probable Presumptions of the Dialectic Interactive Approach


On the other hand, there is still a clear tendency (with)in the modern science (thought) to be generalised (scientific knowledge of) the laws of “nature” (and universe) or heavens, if you so will (Job-38:33), focusing its attention on the understanding and orienting in time DIA space in terms of their famous five senses in the best case, whereas other three ways to the discovery of unknown (culture and art in particular) present and interpret the same dialectical interactive content in terms of the seven senses. I hope that a scientist, follower of the major principles of this re-vivified pre-ancient approach to the discovery of unknown in time DIA space, will not miss the point of the previously exposed and outlined dialectical content under consideration. Anyway, any creator of knowledge, who [is a dialectic synthesis of these four pre-ancient ways to the discovery of unknown DIA the renewed thesis … … renewed (higher) knowledge] always orients in accordance to these four broad (simulative) spheres of human acting and creating, will not miss the “point” for sure, as well as how could (s)he do it after all this said, and that was all, what this creator of knowledge tried to express DIA imprinting impressions of his into the current time DIA space regarding the dialectical content under consideration.

Probably you have noticed that this creator of knowledge, writing "The Eternal Poem" (appendix 2, Jovanovic, 2003) and thereby paraphrasing "The Psalm of David -8:3-6" [compare it to the Job's parody /Job-7:17-21/ (antithesis) on these words of David (thesis)], didn't put on the same level the notions "heavens and earth" but rather it was re-enlightened by him the lost meaning of the notion "earthens", caused by the (multiple) translations of this term over time DIA space from one language to the another one, due to the missing adequate word in that time DIA space. Thus, this pair of notions was (re)vivified by this creator of knowledge, and expressed in terms of thesis and antithesis that is in a better harmony with the applied dialectic interactive approach. For example, heavens - earthens, sky - earth in order to be avoided misunderstanding through double (multiple) meaning of the same word [particularly, in figurative sense, often used by artists and philosophers, while expressing DIA their impressions and reflections in (of) time DIA space in their creative works].

The White Angel


Now it is the right time DIA space to be gone back to the content of the Book of Job. After, Elihu praised the Lord and extolled His work, he took up the symbolical right reserved for God to speak in this way (divine monologue). It does not mean that it is not allowed to converse with the Lord, as it will be later proved and demonstrated by the Lord personally, but if you chose to argue with Him in the way as it is usually done on the earth, then it is expected of you TO HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY during the started debate, ["Pay your attention, Job, and listen to me; be silent, and I will speak. IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY, answer me; speak up, for I want you to be cleared. BUT IF NOT, THEN LISTEN TO ME; be silent, and I will teach you wisdom" (Job-33:31-33, /Elihu/)]. In addition to the afore outlined by this creator of knowledge, all (Great) Prophets of God had communicated with God, in one or another way, whose creative upshot was recorded in the Holy Books and Scriptures. Keep in the mind that the Lord [DIA Lords (Psalm of David-110:1 + Luke - 20:41-44) DIA ...] wants to transfer His knowledge to others (me-thou-us):

  • "It is the Spirit in a (wo)man/human(e) being, the breath of the Almighty, that gives her/him understanding" (Job-32:8).

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